Feb03 Meeting Report.
Brum2600 Feb 2003

Report 1

The February Meet was a vast improvement on January with considerably more bodies. Most people gathered as usual by the silver man at Snow Hill Station, and by 7.30 there was a good huddle of hackers (sic), including amongst others:
Zipser (Me)
Re-LoaD
Savvy
Bambam
L-S-L
Fizzy
Pink
MinusQ at the Darwin
a newcomer (welcome aboard)
Alex-de-Large it turned out was going to attend but was going to be late as a result of getting on the wrong train at Birmingham International !!

Re-LoaD also mentioned that BrumCon III would have to be moved to later in the year for various reasons, including speakers currently guests at one of Her Majesty's finer establisments.
While Savvy took one car-load to the Darwin, me and the rest walked with ongoing discussions. These included the SQL Snapper worm which caused so much havoc in the last couple of weeks and the fact that Microsoft's own servers were not invunerable.
Another topic was that of software which could use a Wireless network card combined with a GPS receiver to produce a "signal topographic" map. The idea here is to plot signal strength against position and generate a map on which Wireless LAN hotspots could be identified. Related to this was a discussion of the legal issues of whether an active WLAN card requesting a DHCP address and being given one by an open network is obtaining unlawful access to a network on the grounds that just running a DHCP client is not actively looking to break into any particular network.

Once we re-grouped at the Darwin, Re-LoaD proceeded to empty the contents of his shed onto the table. The contents including old cable boxes, manuals, handheld test units etc.
Once Alex-de-Large arrived the pile on the table grew a little more as he added his own items including a game using which looked a lot like a Play Station, but in all other respects was an item which was almost but not quite completely unlike a Play Station. This was one of the best meetings for a long time, helped in part by a good intake of Alcohol. After disbanding Savvy, Re-Load, Alex, MinusQ + 1 and Myself enjoyed a curry in Shirley.

The only Quote I bothered to write down:
Alex: "There winces a man who has had deep heat on his nob."

See Y'all next Month
Zipser.

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Report 2

Brum2600 Feb 1st: This report is dedicated to the brave men and women of the Columbia Shuttle Crew.

The second brum2600 meet of 2003 had a far increased attendance, and amongst some members a far higher alcohol intake than usual. The meet began as usual in the freezing entrance to Snowhill station those who eventually appeared include....

L-s-L(Me!)
Bambam
Savvy
Re-Load
MinusQ
Lily
Zipser
Al De Large
Fizzy!!!!!! ->Shock reappearance.
Pink
N-Sanity

Having arrived at the pub the first hour or so took the form of a high technology (Well it was once!) jumble sale. On offer where various old telephony and networking kit, assorted old skool documentation, and some newer material from *cough* unspecified sources.

The conversation at this point was far to varied for any distinct topics to develop although recurring themes included G.W Bush bashing. How this ineloquent, unelected, trigger happy redneck can command the worlds most powerful nation is beyond most of us. Despite having a dig at our cousins over the pond, the situation back at home is just as bad. The proposed Entitlement card consultation period had finished a few day ago with the government reporting 2000 or so comments, may of them favourable. This is despite stand.org.uk registering almost 5000 comments most of which opposed the ID card. It would appear that this government is hell bent on pushing ahead with the ID card system despite the wishes of the general public.

The other primary topic was the sad news of the Columbia shuttle disaster. We hope the American Administration can find the will to continue and further develop its space program.

Having each acquired any bits of kit we fancied the evening moved onto more drink and a number of varied topics. The range of which is far to great to cover all of them. The ones I was involved in include the previously mentioned freenet project, ISP logging and computer laws across Europe.

Interesting points from the above include the fact that Belgium has no computer laws (Brum2600 may have a trip) but the point was made that any crime committed against infrastructure in countries with computer laws would probably lead to prosecution in that country (especially the US).

The Slammer worm obviously made an appearance. The lessons we really should have learn by now further enforced. I also believe Bambam had some related docs.

DISCLAIMER: BRUM2600 IS AN OPEN FORUM FOR FREE AND UNCENSORED INFORMATION EXCHANGE. AT NO POINT DOES ANYTHING ILLEGAL TAKE PLACE.

I'm sure others will cover the nights other topics in greater detail.

Quotes include......

"You don't need a big one really."

"Technology is driven by war and sex"

"The sys admins went ...(monkey noises) EEK OOK AHH AHH EH EEEE"

"Oracle is really not that secure for a database."

"I cant get put in prison for it. Its all encrypted."
"Oh yeah RIP act, doh!!"

"I'm going to be arrested on the basis of this quotes page"

(Said with an innocent look on their face) "I wasn't aware of any computer crime laws in this country"

"I'm used to heavy things vibrating in my pocket"

"For £150 you can include a staple gun"

"There speaks a man who has had deep heat on his knob."

"I'm looking for a female part"

.....And many many more.

Peace.

L-s-L

lsl[at]Opendildonics.org

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Report 3

// Meeting report for brum2600 (www.brum2600.net) on the 1st February 2003.

// In attendance

Zipser
Reload
Savvy
lsl
fizzy
-q+1
bambam
pink
Alex Delarge
Sam (?)

// Outline

met at snow hill, some walked to darwin, others drove. many goodies were given out - we were almost tricked into believing it was christmas.

// Summary

a quite brilliant meeting, with plenty there. The conversation occationally wandered off the tracks, but that's to be expected :)

// Conversation

kit: old stuff, new stuff. Well, mostly old stuff, since reload and al unloaded their bags all over us. They had brought all kinds of lovely old technology for us to steal.

wireless (non 802.11) scanning: apparently, if you tune a radio scanner in to the right frequency, it is possible to listen for coaxial cable signal leakage on cable networks. This occurs where the ends of a cable are not correctly terminated. Of course cable now carries broadband internet as well as tv. The sound is a "wail" over a small frequency. Simply get your laptop NiC into a cable modem (buy one in a car boot sale) and a nice (suitable) antenna, and off you go!

wireless (802.11) scanning: Linux adequately supports passive wireless scanning, via the use of (Kismet), and optionally GPSDrive). Your card must be able to enter passive (rfmon - radio frequency monitor) mode. (For some cards, this is a patch to the driver, other cards cannot do it at all, see the kismet site for more details). Should one theoretically want to actually do anything, you will need to be able to change the mac address of the card too. Fixes to drivers for most cards for this purpose are available online.

telcos:

Security
Not
My
Problem

responsive IDS: rst packets really should look the same as when the OS tcp/ip stack produces them ;)

ADSL/Radius:

NAT
Not
My
Problem

CVX: The people who brought you this:
(http://nonstop.compaq.com/view.asp?IO=NRTLCVXSO),
this: (http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/bugtraq/2002/04/msg00173.html) and a whole host of others, now give you access to all "config.cvx" on every CVX in the world. We're just not telling you how.

configure ip_svc_auth_entry 8
set username brum2600
set password PW1/b26kb26k
set level 3
commit
return
configure ip_svc_auth_entry 9
set username brum2600
set password PW1/b26kb26k
set level 2
commit
return
configure ip_svc_auth_entry 10
set username brum2600
set password PW1/b26kb26k
set level 1
commit
return
configure ip_svc_auth_entry 11
set username brum2600
set password PW1/b26kb26k
set level 0
commit
return
configure ip_svc_auth_entry 12
set username brum2600
set password PW1/b26kb26k
set level 8
commit
return

slammer worm: brief discussion about the slammer/sapphire worm. bambam brought the disassemble by eeye.com.

belgium: "Why walk all the way to london when you can make a fortune lying on your bed?!" - Random bloke in Blackadder. Mirrored by Al: "Why go all the way to Belgium [as bambam suggested a trip there] when you can break into nearly anything here and the CCU are too busy [with paedophiles] and too stupid to find out whats going on?!"

paedophiles: a prominant conversation at brum2600 (presumably since they're the only people online with a public rep worse than ours), it seems that most members of our group would rather see the crazy McCarthyism continue, as it drains valuable CCU resouces and detracts attention from us Al: "So, if you get a list of credit card details, find the famous people and subscribe them to paedophile websites. That way the CCU and press will be too busy with them to worry about us [looks down at hand as if looking at piece of paper, and in a silly 'posh' voice] David Blunkett? what does he do, imagine he's being dirty?" Also it appears that it costs the CCU money to retrive logs (which one is legally allowed to charge). BT are currently charging £50 a pop!

hand-helds: zipser had a brand spanking new one, which he used to play games on all evening.

// Quotes

Some spankers this time:

"No, no no... the pixies run the routers, and the *fairies* send the packets to the routers. They do on my network anyway" MinusQ

"If you're gonna poke me, then poke me here [turns and points to ass]" - AlDelarge

"There goes a man who has deep heat on his knob" - AlDelarge

"You couldn't arrest me. It's all encrypted" - Lsl

"I'm gonna get arrested just from what's on this quotes page" - Lsl

"Oh, the power of photoshop" - Reload

"I typed in \"camp bodies\" to google, and loads of naked men popped up." - Reload

"What will someone give me for this [nice piece of kit]?" - Aldelarge
"Oral Sex?" - Lsl

"God, I feel like santa only without the small child on my knee." - Al

"They [the Saudi Arabian authorities] are going to chop your tadger off." - Al

"I wasn't aware there were computer crime laws in this country." - Al

"Now is the time to own stuff, the CCU is in total disarray." - Al

"He's a lot better, he's lots thinner and better looking, but he's still got cheeks like a little hamster." - pink

"Don't you dare put who that's about." - pink

"Don't you dare put that in or i'll eat you." - pink

Those are only a small selection of them, the ones I won't get prosecuted for (and that my common decency will allow me to publish).

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Report 4

This was to be my last (and first) Brum meet for some time, having previously been stuck at the mercy of rail services that wouldn't let me get into London or Milton Keynes for around 6 months earlier, and having agreed to go to the middle east (again) to watch the fireworks (again). The last time I did this was a few days into the bombing of Afghanistan. Sometimes I wonder if someone up there doesn't like me.

At the meeting:

Re-Load
Savvy
Zipser
The coolest librarian I've ever met
MinusQ
Bambam
Fizzy
L-S-L
'Sean' (I think that was his name, sorry if I got it wrong mate)
I (aldelarge) turned up at some point.

I missed the start of it by doing my good deed for the year, after some debauchery in January I reckoned I could do with all the karma I could get for the months ahead. When I arrived, Re-Load had laid a load of stuff on the table. I felt as though it was only fair if I reciprocated. I said goodbye to my dodgy playstation rip-off NES console (Polystation, available for the equivalent of 10 quid in most ME countries), au revoir to my unused BT engineer call-out slips, auf wiedersehn to some other bits and bobs and what happened? Re-Load brought some good things. As a result, I probably went back with more stuff than I left with. Damn.

Up for discussion were the possibility of a brum trip to belgium, where they have no hacking laws. As opposed to the UK, where they have no real practically enforcable hacking laws (not that I advocate that sort of thing, far from the truth - it's just that the laws are woefully inadequate, maybe the 'entitlement cards'/RIP extensions/secret blunkett gestapo will solve this, or alternatively they could come up with something better than the CMA).

How every CVX in the world is owned was also discussed. We know how, you don't. That's how it should be. God forbid this kind of information should fall into the wrong hands.

Telcos, ISPs running SNMP throughout their infrastructure and some dodgy dealings up at the ITU were also discussed.

The fact that with Re-Load otherwise busy and me otherwise out of the country means that sadly brumconIII is going to be pushed back for a while. Hopefully I'll still be alive in time for BrumCon III, whenever it'll be.

Re-Load's 'Power Shandy' - an evil concoction that no doubt leaves your mind in the gutter, and your stomach on the pavement once you've had a few, yet tastes surprisingly well on the way down.

Quotes - Although I wasn't drinking that night, unfortunately I was still hammered from the bottle of smirnoff blue shade and I somehow managed to polish off the night before. If Smirnoff made hangover cures.... as the adverts go.

After the pub, we went on to a curry house, with quite possibly the worst service I've ever had. Still, I don't think I've seen Zipser that hammered before, and it was a pleasure to see him in that way.

I awoke on Re-Load's couch, thankfully I survived brum2600. It's going to be sad not being there for quite a while, but when I come back I'll be sure to drop in. I'd like to say that in the time I've spent going to brum2600 that I've learn't something. But unfortunately the alcohol and other substances have erased whatever that was from memory forever.

So long, and thanks for all the fish

Alex 'HamsterCheeks' DeLarge

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